Tell Us about:

Your latest single you have released: 

You Ruined Forever is the title track from my debut EP of the same name. My record is about breaking up with someone before you fall out of love with them in an act of self-care. This EP is a reflection of the situation once I was far enough out of it to understand what really happened and my song You Ruined Forever is me taking back the narrative and saying no, YOU did this. You ruined forever. Coming out of my breakup, my ex villainies me for breaking up with him when I left the relationship because it was no longer healthy due to chronic infidelity and emotional manipulation on his part.

This was a really defining time in my life because as someone barely in their twenties, not only was I looking for myself like any other twenty something year old, I was also dicerning the real me from the person he made me believe I was. Turns out leaving him was the best act of self-care I ever did for myself, but this song You Ruined Forever is about the struggle with that. How I wish I didn’t have to leave. A pep talk to myself in the middle of the night when I’m thinking about calling my ex and reminding myself that he can’t give you the relationship you deserve.

Your first single and how you felt when it was released:

My first single was called Galaxy. When that came out, I had zero idea how the music industry worked but I was just so excited to work with producers who could see my vision for the song sonically and really bring it to life. It was a quick session making that one but I learned so much about production and although I wrote the song myself ahead of the session, I learned how quickly songs can come together. I love that about songwriting. In two hours you could have a little piece of music that could change peoples’ lives. I was also surprised when this came out how well it did. It had like 100,000 or so streams pretty soon after release.

Your favourite song that you have created that is an album track:

It’s hard to pick favorites, but I’d say No Other Way. I’d never written a song like that before and the process was just so fun. I was in the studio with my friends Sam and Sal and they both started improvising on two different pianos, then I got on the mic. That’s how the base of the song was built then we added horns and that trippy outro. I love pop music but I also love psychedelic music and I’m always trying to find out how I can blur the lines between genres and it was fun to do on this one.

Your favourite song to play live:

Dancing While the World is on Fire is my favorite live mostly because people know that one the best now because I’d say it’s my most popular song. I also just love the message behind it and it’s really surreal to see people singing along live when I wrote it in my friend’s apartment during COVID when I never knew if I’d get to perform again or when.

The song that was the longest to write and why?

I’d say Indie Bands & Cigarettes took the most sessions mostly because there was so much I wanted to say. I probably could have written a few more verses for it. Also, the song was totally different when Harry and I started it. The whole first half was backed by only mandolin and it was called I borrowed your personality. We also had a blast with production on that one so it took a few more sessions than we expected. We switched keys a few times, switched from mandolin to guitar, we even recorded Harry using a lighter as percussion.

Your most emotional track:

I would say Jekyll + Hyde is the most emotional track. It’s about when I was still in the relationship torn up about whether or not to end it because I felt like I was dating two different people. Getting love bombed one day and gaslit the next. It’s feeling pushed out of your own relationship and then being blamed for ending things.

The best lyric you have ever written:

I really like this lyric from Broken China: I’m trying to difuse these feelings But nothing seems to make a difference And baby we both got reasons, but you didn’t leave themYou just pulled the pin out.

Describe the feeling you get when you walk on stage to do a show:

God I used to feel nervous, but now I’m happy to say that I feel really confident and comfortable. I do get really emotional though. If any family or friends are there, I have to avoid looking at them because I get teary eyed.

The hardest track to play live:

Narcissist is the hardest live! It’s a pretty fast song and the range is pretty big so I have to make sure I’m breathing.

Essential items you always take on tour with you?

I haven’t been on tour yet, but I’m hoping I get to go next year. If I could imagine though, I’d say my film camera, my Uggs, and lots of sweats for when I’m not on stage.

Describe your fans in three words:

Sweet, angels, creative. A lot of my fans are aspiring artists too and I love that.

A song by another artist or band you wish you had written:

I adore the Garden Song by Phoebe Bridgers and really just everything she’s ever written. I love the dichotomy of her songs especially Garden Song. I feel like when a lot of people hear my favorite artist is Phoebe they’re like oh wow that’s so depressing, but I actually find her perspective to be really comforting and almost uplifting. I love the Garden Song for that reason. Some of the imagery is dark, but the sentiment is really lovely.

What we can look forward to from your band in 2023:

In 2023, I’m hoping to play some more shows (maybe a tour!) and lots lots more music.